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The Demise of Online Communities

Joel Spolsky and Jeff Atwood’s Stack Overflow podcast this week had some interesting things to say about the success and failure of online communities.  They cited a recent post by Robert Scoble as well as Clay Shirky’s assertion: “A Group is its Own Worst Enemy”.

Problems they (Joel, Jeff & Robert) raised:

  • streams of newbies asking the same questions in wave after wave, causing experts to leave
  • discussion (aka chatting) is entertaining but less valuable for conveying/gleaning information than to-the-point one-way posts (as in, Scoble says, good blogs and radio shows).  Atwood says the problem is that “the goal becomes the discussion.”

Stack Overflow‘s particular design solution includes:

  • putting up barriers up for newbies to protect the old-timers – Stack Overflow does this by requiring a certain number of points before allowing a new user to vote.  [This takes balls. Here we are with 4 users today (other than ourselves) and Atwood suggests putting up barriers to entry?]
  • giving a means to discuss and debate (ie comments, meta.stackoverflow) but minimizing the chatter visually and discouraging it from the main Q&A content (via guidelines, moderators, point system, etc.)

So, taking issues & features like these under advisement as we grow – that is, if we grow to more than our current 4 users :)  And speaking of growth…

Power Law Graph

Power Law Graph

…Shirky is fantastically interesting.  In a talk he gave at TED way back in 2005 (embedded below), Shirky discusses the Power Law graph and uses it to describe Flickr contributions to a particular tag (like “Iraq”) – the least prolific contributors contribute about 1/100th of what the most prolific contributors are contributing (see the long tail?), the top 10% produce 75% of the value, the top 1% produce 25% of the value, and the bottom 80% of users thus can be said to be contributing “below average” content-wise.  He says the institution can make a choice – ignore/bar the trailing 80% or welcome their minimal (but possibly important) contribution.  The key he says is to make the technology accommodate this distribution (eg. Linux, vs Microsoft).

So, the question I’m left with:  how do we safeguard and protect the top 1% while still accepting and valuing the occasional, minimal, but potentially important contributions of the bottom 80%?

On to the appendix – here’s Shirky 2005 TED talk:

[As a side note, Shirky also touches on Meetup's unexpected phenomenal success with Stay at Home Moms (SAHMs) asevidence that the creators are often the last to realize how a social site will function once live. (Although as someone who has now weathered two maternity leaves, I'd wager that the success of a site that connects online users up in real-world gatherings with SAHMs is not at all surprising to anyone who has found themselves isolated at home day-in day-out with an infant for longer than a week and looking to make new equally-isolated & motivated friends.)]

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